Rotten Tomatoes released a list of “10 Sci Fi Flicks For the Thinking Man (or Woman)” and I have created an alternative which I believe to be much better. Both lists are less about fighting aliens and outer space battles than they are a list that contains “more thoughtful movies as to what it means to be human.” I usually can count on Rotten Tomatoes, but for this list I think they got a good portion of it wrong AND I think many of the movies they have picked are movies that are just recycled into most science fiction movie lists. Their list isn’t terrible, but it is typical. How many times do we need to see Blade Runner, 2001: A Space Odyssey and Planet of the Apes in a top 10 list? My list will contain alternative options with movies that you may not have seen. Also, I’m taking the liberty to make my list a list not only about “what it means to be human” but also a list where “thinking people are allowed to think.”
The Rotten Tomatoes list can be found near the bottom of this post or on their site. Below that I’ve written a little about why I don’t like their selection. But first and foremost, here is my selection:

The Rotten Tomatoes list has the Tarkovsky film Solaris, but I’ve chosen Stalker. This is a slower-paced movie about this somewhat creepy guy who’s occupation is a “stalker.” We don’t know much about who hires him or who gets him to do what he does but he does it anyway. And we really have a difficult time determining what he actually does. We learn that he brings very specific people to this illegal site and leads them through a series of humbling performances and rituals so that eventually they will enter a room that will change their life if they don’t die in the process. There are some wonderful conversations about freedom, independence, control, and letting go. This film will help solidify the free-thinker in their quest for independence.

Not to be confused with the 2004 remake, The original Stepford Wives is part suspense/horror and part science fiction. This is an early film that advocates for the rights of women. The film does this by showing us the dilemmas and inner struggles of a non-conforming wife. She finds it especially difficult fitting in with the other wives in the town of Stepford because they are so good at being housewives, keeping their houses clean, pleasing their husbands, cooking for everyone, and not speaking out of turn. When our main lady starts feeling the pressure to conform, and when her friend goes off the deep end she begins to suspect there is more than meets the eye.

This Godard film clearly inspired some of Ridley Scotts decisions in Blade Runner. In this movie Lemmy Caution is an agent that is sent to Alphaville where he finds a centralized computer that manipulates and hypnotizes the citizens of the city with a quite persuasive voice of reason. This computer attempts to remove love and free thought from the citizens because these are irrational traits. Caution is caught in a bind with growing feelings for a woman who can’t reciprocate those emotions.This movie is for the thinking person because it is about the thinking person, and the debate about rationality and irrationality, what it means to be a human and be free, and it is all executed with some heady philosophical dialog.

One of my favorite examples of the blurring of utopia and dystopia. This is a post-apocalyptic film where one boy lives in a dangerous wasteland which is the surface of the earth after what seems to be a nuclear holocaust. A group of apocalyptic survivors live below ground and kidnap this boy, using him to supply sperm to their women because the men in this underground world are no longer capable of reproduction. The people underground live in some type of false happiness where they dogmatically follow all rules of etiquette and moral conduct while remaining isolated and shallow. Even though they believe they have created a perfect world for themselves the boy can’t wait to return to his desolate dystopia up top. Smart thinking.

Primer was on the Rotten Tomatoes list so you know it must be a worthwhile film if we both recommend it ;). Two scientists have discovered time travel quite by accident and their friendship quickly turns into a business relationship where trust is broken. Not only that, but because people now travel back and forth through time, multiple versions of the same person exist. Quite the dilemma! What do we do with the other versions of me? How do I know I’m the original guy and not the new one? Does it even matter? The movie revolves around dialog; there are no special effects, instead we hear the two friends discussing what is happening and what they are discovering, and what they are going through. It may be confusing, but in the end you realize that’s the point.

A good replacement for The Children of Men, which is also a good movie, but this is a very very nice alternative. Only one in every hundred women can have children. Those women are taken, brainwashed, and sent into training so that they can become “handmaid’s” for rich couples who want to have children. So, the handmaid has the child for the couple. We see that in this dystopia even the act of childbearing has been regulated by the government. The lucky are made unlucky and the priveledged rich become luckier. The struggle of who belongs to who and what say one person has over another person’s life is at the heart of this film, which is why this film definitely belongs on a list of sci fi movies about what it means to be human.

This 1986 version of The Fly is probably the most disturbing movie I’ve ever seen. Why does it make this list? How did it not make the Rotten Tomatoes list is the real question! Jeff Goldblum plays Seth Brundle, a promising scientist who has learned how to transport items from one end of the room to another. Brundle, in an act of desperation, attempts to transport himself across the room but his genes accidentally become mixed with those of a fly. In the meantime Brundle has developed a beautiful relationship with a woman who is documenting his research. As Brundle slowly mutates into this fly over a period of a few months we see him becoming less and less human and more and more animal. But his lover cannot let go of him, she has fallen so desperately in love with him that we too feel her pain and disgust simultaneously. And so we have the question of what is human and what is the power of one human’s love over another? Oh, it’s wretched and twisted and not for the faint of heart!

This is the 2nd and last movie that is on both my list and the Rotten Tomatoes list. It is also probably the most popular movie on my list (The Fly might also be just as popular actually), however, you would be surprised at how many people have not seen this movie. If you haven’t, I think you should do yourself a favor and see it. In the future parents can choose what sorts of traits their children will have and they can enhance their abilities through genetic manipulation. This is a common practice and everyone buys into this system without giving it much thought. These enhancements determine your occupation and your social class. The movie follows the life of one man who was born a “God child” (a natural birth) and doesn’t have all the enhancements everyone else around him has. The movie follows him and his struggle to do what he has always dreamed of doing in a world where it is impossible to do so. This is definitely one of the most provacative contemporary science fiction movies there is and it is my personal favorite.

This movie makes the list because it really dives head first into the nature of being human, the decisions we make and our struggle to enact our ideals into the world. This is truly a thinking person’s movie. What if angels gave one person on earth the ability to create miracles? Would this person use this power for good or evil? Selfishly or selflessly? What would I use these powers for? That’s a question the man who receives this power asks to everyone around him. Unfortunately everyone has a different idea of how he should use his new powers. Our desire to do good can be confused with our desire to be great. This is a provacative movie, even in its old age (it’s from 1937).

And topping this list of smart science fiction movies for the thinking person is Creation of the Humanoids (1962) – a movie all about what is human, what is not, what makes someone or something a human and who gets to decide, and how we should treat people who are not quite like us. The movie mostly focuses on the internal struggle and the external politics of accepting people who are 94% human and 6% robot. There aren’t really any special effects and the movie is almost entirely robots and humans conversing with each other. The discussions they have with each other are fantastic and definitely still applicable in contemporary society. A lovely movie.
10. Planet of the Apes 9. Dark City 8. Sleeper 7. Gattaca 6. Primer 5. Children of Men 4. Solaris (original) 3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind 2. Blade Runner 1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
As mentioned above, one of the main problems I have with this list is that many of these movies are in just about every sci fi movie list ever. I think it’s good to place a less-known movie in a spot where someone would normally be thinking “the next movie on the list has got to be 2001: A Space Odyssey” and instead you give them something a bit more obscure. Juxtaposing movies like that, and breaking expectations might just allow the “thinking person” to make connections between obscurer movies and classics, and help them appreciate the genre a little more. Not all the movies I’m picking are obscure, in fact, some of my movies are already on this list, but I’m definitely mixing it up. Also, I don’t thinking I’m “trying to hard;” This list came to me pretty easily.
Additionally I think some of the choices Rotten Tomatoes made could use some rethinking. Sleeper wouldn’t be on my list because it is heavy handed and a bit pretentious. It thinks it has all the answers and that society needs to wake up from its boredom and mundanity. I think it’s important to see the beauty in this mundanity and know that there are copious amounts of creativity that arises from it. To condemn it all is to take the easy way out. Sure, Sleeper is a smart movie – it uses big words and big ideas but it leads you too much and doesn’t let you think for yourself. There are many better movies that explore what it means to awaken from “the system” and do a much better job showing the struggle of what it means to be a free thinking agent in a world where all the roads have already been laid for you.
I know not everyone would agree with me but I think Dark City is a terrible movie. I don’t’ think that it explores what it means to be a human as much as it tries to trick you with the last 20 minutes of the movie. That’s what the whole movie is about…the twist at the end…and that’s boring. I could care less about any of the characters in that movie, and I don’t think they did a remotely good job of portraying what makes humanity so special. Maybe they should have read Frank Herbert’s book The Heaven Makers before they made this movie.
I don’t want to go through every movie and explain what I would do differently, but you can get a sense of my thoughts by what I just wrote along with the list I created. Please tell me what you think, I would love to hear your thoughts.
31 Responses
Bachalon
January 14th, 2009 at 1:57 am
1GOOD list.
I wasn’t too thrilled with RTs original list either. Very safe.
becca
January 15th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
2awesome list. the handmaid’s tale movie was ok, but the book was a total mind fuck.
gattaca is one of my favorite movies by far. inspirational in its own way.
Shrie Mooch
January 15th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
3Thanks for this list! Unlike the RT list, I haven’t seen most of these. Now I’ve got something to do while I hibernate for the winter.
Two that I think could have been included would be “Brazil” and “12 Monkeys”. I don’t know why Terry Gilliam is always getting the shaft.
tony
January 15th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
4Another vote for the greatness of The Handmaid’s Tale as a great book, it totally blew my mind in high school. Nice list, thanks.
Eli
January 15th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
5Good list, Gattaca, Primer, all good movies, call me a loser, but as much as i respect old scifi, I cant enjoy it like modern scifi. Much like As awesome as Asimov’s Foundation series is, I’d much rather read something by Charles Stross, or Stephen Baxter, because its easier for me to identify with the context. Great list though.
anaglyph
January 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
6>>I know not everyone would agree with me but I think Dark City is a terrible movie
Well, I agree with you. I find it quite surprising that it makes it into a list of thinking people’s movies when it treats the audience as if they are complete morons by explaining what’s going on in words of less than two syllables.
I find it amazing that Sunshine is on neither list… KIDDING! But everyone else seems to think that mess is a work of genius too.
David Schneider
January 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
7Crap list. I simply cannot believe you did not mention Blade Runner, Escape from New York, ExIstenZ, Pi and the Matrix Trilogy (yes, the freakin’ Matrix Trilogy).
David Schneider Sucks Donkey Dicks
January 15th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
8“Crap list. I simply cannot believe you did not mention Blade Runner, Escape from New York, ExIstenZ, Pi and the Matrix Trilogy (yes, the freakin’ Matrix Trilogy).”
This is suppose to be a “thinking” man’s list. Not a Fucktard list of whats on TNT tonight other than the NBA. READ the whole piece before you comment asswhole.
snausage
January 15th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
9NBA is on TNT tonight? Awesome!!
Alan Morse Davies
January 15th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
10The Russian sci-fi black comedy Kin Dza Dza has to be one of the best thinking man’s sc-fi movies ever made, but I like the list… good work!
David Schneieder Sucks Donkey Dicks Sucks Donkey Dicks
January 15th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
11watch what you say about “escape from new york” or i’ll track down your ip and rip your motherboard apart.
Darren Albert
January 15th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
12Interesting list. Some obscure movies there that I’ll have to check out. David Schneider is on the money with his comment regarding The Matrix trilogy though. It is easily one of the greatest philosophical pieces of sci-fi ever written. The Matrix is one of the few sci-fi stories ever to be taught in Philosophy classes at many universities. There is also an entire philosophy book devoted to the parallels between the philosophy of The Matrix and the ideas of the world’s greatest philosophers. Someone here has paid out on Schneider for it. Whoever that is clearly doesn’t understand the depth of thought behind the Matrix. It is way deeper than Gattaca, although I agree Gattaca is worthy of the top 10. V for Vendetta is another thinking man’s sci fi. Many people dislike that movie but it delves heavily into morality, percepetion, the difference between right and wrong, and the illusion of truth – I’d argue it does this to a great depth than The Fly. In fact, I’d also argue The Fly 2 takes The Fly a step further and applies the philosophies of The Fly with a broader perspective on life, evidenced by the sad dog scene. I think I’d put V for Vendetta and The Matrix both in a top 10, at the very least in a top 10 of modern sci-fi.
becca
January 15th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
13i’m going to have to agree with this david schneider character about the matrix trilogy’s significance and with darren albert about it’s far reaching implications. not only does the film allude to philosophy, but when analyzed as an extended metaphor for biblical parables, it holds up very well. i’m no bible beater, but i know enough to be impressed with the matrix’s impact on so many disparate planes.
just sayin’.
ericmsteen
January 16th, 2009 at 9:08 am
14hey everyone,
thank you for all your thoughts and suggestions. I love getting obscure sci fi suggestions (for movies). I put them immediately on my list.
I do want to point out that I was making this list as an alternative to the normal lists where you see the same 5 sci fi movies listed over and over. I agree the Matrix is brilliant, but everyone has already seen it. Please read through some of the last paragraphs on why I chose more obscure movies.
I’m sure there are plenty of better movies, but for my list, this is just the way it’s going to work. I encourage you to make your own top 10 list and then shoot me an email so I can see it to.
Neil
January 16th, 2009 at 11:13 am
15Also highly recommend Chris Marker’s La Jeteé
Joe
January 16th, 2009 at 11:34 am
16Opinions are like a-holes, everyone….
Thanks for the list!! Two movies for me to watch I’ve never heard of and bonus, they sound intellectually stimulating.
Thanks Eric
-Joe
Bill Simmon
January 16th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
17We discussed the Rotten Tomatoes list a bit on the last episode of Poli-Sci-Fi Radio (http://www.poliscifiradio.com) and I think you have some good alternatives here. I would also add Brainstorm (1983) and The Quiet Earth (1985). Brazil too, if you consider it “science fiction.”
Geek
January 16th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
18THX 1138.
Just love the absurdity of a derailed modern society.
Mac
January 16th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
19Thanks for this list! Got it netflixed.
Jordan Lund
January 16th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
20Handmaid’s Tale? Really? That flick was a total TRAINWRECK.
Now if you want to talk about the book, I’m with you 100%, but Jesus Christ you might as well be talking about “Clan of the Cave Bear” or “Flowers in the Attic” in terms of cinematic quality.
I’d rather have seen you list “The Fountain” as a flick which demands and inspires critical thinking.
Kelly
January 16th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
21GREAT choice on Handmaid’s Tale and Gattaca!
- Kelly
The Convention Fans Blog
http://conventionfans.today.com
brian
January 16th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
22Interesting list, though i don’t think calling it a “top 10″ is fair given your criteria; just because everyone has seen 2001 and blade runner doesn’t mean they aren’t amazing films. Gattaca is an amazing film though, i’d agree with it’s place there.
As for the comments re. the matrix films… they’re taught in philosophy classes because they give an accessible and recignized account of philosophical ideas, not because they’re good movies or good philosophy. Their philosophy is clumsy and hackish, and is just a collection of poorly understood ideas that could be lifted any 1st year philsosophy course.
ericmsteen
January 17th, 2009 at 10:11 am
23Hey brian,
you make a good point about the matrix. concerning “top 10″ though I think it’s totally fair to call this a top 10. “Top 10″ is a very relative term and people have differing opinions. I called it the top 10 (beerandscifi version).
Noirling
January 18th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
24Fail. No Bladerunner? No Matrix? Primer was complete and total pseudo-intellectual garbage.
Eli
January 20th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
25Some of you guys take matters of opinion way too seriously. I loved Sunshine, and I like The Matrix. I hated Handmaid’s Tale. I thought The Fountain was intellectually stimulating. But I refused to call anyone a asshole, idiot, or psuedo-intellectual garbage. Take the list with a grain of salt. It’s not like Mr. Steen named this article “Watch these movies, or your a fucking idiot!”
Matt
January 22nd, 2009 at 2:58 am
26Sunshine is a great sci-fi movie (although not really top 10 material). LOVE Gattaca, and only just recently realised the title is made of of the DNA code letters. Duh.
The Fountain should be on your list, or RT’s, or both. Beautiful and mindbending.
Matt
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:00 am
27Oh, and no love for Contact?
Jason
January 26th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
28I don’t understand your points against Dark City. There really was no twist as far as I could tell. Everything logically culminated as Schreber had finally found the vessel he needed to stand up to the strangers after they underestimated his humanity. The only “human” in the film is Schreber; everyone else, including John has fake memories. The fact that John has fancy tuning abilities is an aberration of biology and has no bearing on his humanity.
I don’t think Dark City qualifies as a ‘Top 10 Sci-fi Flicks for TheThinking Man’, but for reasons totally unrelated to yours. The strangers were always destined to fail. Their entire experiment was broken; it didn’t even make sense. They created a schizophrenic society where everyone was an amalgam of memories but no one actually had the experience. If John had gotten his imprint like he was supposed to, he would have become the serial killer he was meant to be. Instead, he was left mostly blank and made choices which led him to become who he was. That is how humans work. The memories dumped on the people were the result of a set of choices they didn’t actually make.
I agree that Bladerunner should have been on your list.
Eric
January 26th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
29Maybe “twist” was the wrong word. I still think they didn’t do a very good job at making me care about anything that was happening.
Ben
June 9th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
30Great list! I’m so glad you included Alphaville!…one of the most underappreciated movies of all time!
Ben
June 9th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
31Oh, and I also have to throw support to the commenter who mentioned that Sunshine belongs on the list!
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